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Noah had 2 of each species in individual, appropriately salted fishbowls in his ark, duh
but how did he manage to keep the right temperature, salinity, oxygen, luminosity, and nutriments suited for each kind of fish? Surely he was a master engineer and aquarist.
Noah! Noah! Don’t put the xenia on your main rockwork! Noah!
Is it more probable that nature should go out of her course or that a man should tell a lie? We have never seen, in our time, nature go out of her course. But we have good reason to believe that millions of lies have been told in the same time. It is therefore at least millions to one that the reporter of a miracle tells a lie.
Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
Salt water and fresh weather don’t mix. So obviously they built a wall…
Did Mexico pay for it?
Aztecs. Or was it Mayans? Whichever had the city of gold and was rich enough to afford building one.
The great flood is actually something that likely happened in some capacity. Iirc multiple religions from the area have a great flood myth around that time, as well as there being archeological evidence that some massive flooding in the area occurred around that time.
The great flood is actually something that likely happened in some capacity.
Large regional floods are common to civilizations in and around big bodies of water. There is no archeological evidence to suggest one big global flood, but plenty of historical accounts of large flooding events that deluged the major population centers of nation states. We even have a few cities submerged within the Mediterranean and off the coast of East Asia and the Caribbean.
As a once-in-a-century event that has enormous implications on the lives and livelihoods of large populations, is it really that crazy to believe they’d develop a shared mythology around the event? We have all sorts of shared myths about thunder storms and constellation patterns and growing seasons and wars. Why not floods?
To them, a regional flood was their whole world flooding.
I never said global flood. You’re actually agreeing with my points.
The great flood is actually something that likely happened in some capacity
Is a global flood not what people mean when they say the great flood?
You’re ignoring the “in some capacity” part.
I’m not. It’s why I kept it in the quote. A great flood happening in some capacity sounds like you’re saying a global flood happened in some capacity. Massive regional floods giving people the impression the whole world is flooded is a little different. It’s all semantics though, really. If you say that’s what you meant then I accept I was just trying to clarify the confusion people are having.
It’s really not that different to the people being flooded. Water as far as the eye can see, leaving destruction in it’s wake, possibly completely chainging the terrain forever, destroying their entire world.
This would have been before the idea of a globe was even popular, let alone common knowledge.
You gotta remember that in those very ancient times of the flood myths (other cultures and religions in the region have flood myths) The “world” wasn’t the entire planet as we know it now. What they meant was their known world, or the Mediterranean and North African coast.
So it’s very likely that a massive flood maybe caused by an ice age thaw, caused the Mediterranean and ancient coastlines, where humans settled, to flood and destroy all their homes.
I don’t think so, but you can never say it’s isn’t possible that some guy built a barge and put his family, livestock, etc. On it and they survived the floods and thought they were the only ones
There might have been a flood at some point where some people survived on a boat, but the noah story isn’t based on any such event, it’s just plagiarized from the epic of gilgamesh
Maybe that story was based on a true event, but it wouldn’t involve someone named noah
I’ve seen pretty strong evidence that the Mediterranean Sea used to not be a sea, and that the flood was the land bridge holding back the ocean failing and allowing the sea to form
Could be where the flood came in and took out everyone on low ground
While there are instances of catastrophic floods in the planet’s history, including some that overlap with human existence, I don’t think the story even needs to be based on one of those. Flooding in some areas is pretty common, like the Nile and its yearly flood cycle. People would have been very aware how sudden and dangerous they could be and it wouldn’t have been hard to imagine a flood that just kept rising instead of rising for a bit and then retreating.
The Bible flood mentions it raining for 40 days and nights, which wouldn’t have been a part of a flood caused by a barrier breach. I don’t know if it’s even possible for Earth to support a weather pattern that resulted in 40 straight days of raining at a rate that would cause flooding, so my guess is that the whole story is made up, imagining a flood event taken to extreme levels and using a mechanism that might have seemed reasonable at the time to “explain” it.
And, as more examples of something similar, modern culture includes a smorgasbord of ideas about how civilization can end, some based on historic cases of fallen civilizations, but most based on imagination or extrapolating what’s possible based on what we know.
Uh, yeah, well, whenever you notice something like that, god did it.
Noah. He had lots of aquaria on the ark.
All water was the same back then. After the Flood the fish that got scattered into different types of waters began to do speed runs in evolution for a few thousand years, and then slowed down.
It’s like how a massive flood back then would lay down layers of similar sediments, even alter some to look like they got overrun by other layers, but that kind of physics doesn’t happen anymore so no one can prove it.
So…you’re saying that evolution is needed to explain the Bible?
Only micro-evolution! Macro-evolution, or evolution between kinds, is obviously impossible.
What is a kind? Whatever kind of grouping that keeps similar looking animals together (like lions and tigers, or rats and mice) but separates Man from monkey, no matter how similar evilutionists claim us to be!
Did fish Eve eat from the forbidden plankton or something and that is why god separated them into salt and freshwater groups?
Well. The thing is. That never happend.
Isn’t there like parts of the ocean where the salt and freshwater don’t mix due to the difference in density? 🤔
There are, yes. Sadly I don’t know the names. It’s pretty cool though.
I’ve heard they’re sometimes referred to as underwater lakes but idk the scientific name
I was thinking of this too. It does have a cool looking effect.
I guess God and Homer approach problems like these in a similar fashion:
It’s so obvious if you aren’t a wokie, clearly the saltwater fish are demons sent by Satan to push the LGBTQ agenda.
Do you think a six line wrasse needs all those damn woke colors?
Do you think percula clownfish change gender to fit the needs of their environment WITHOUT Satan’s help?!
HA, YOUVE ALL BEEN FOOLED
/s
It could have been an aftereffect in the black sea after the Zanclean Flood.
Meaning, only salt water fish.
I just discovered my puppy (about nine months) destroyed my winter slippers, so right now I’m extra cynical.
Ask Christians to what function God created the screwfly ( Cochliomyia hominivorax ), and if Noah willfully preserved screwfly specimens.
The screwfly maggot burrows into live mammals, and is the cause of myiasis or flystrike. The treatment for it is to cut the larvae out, which is extremely painful, but then so is having a screwworm eating you alive.
So hated is this critter that our scientists have actually considered if wiping them out would be too detrimental to too many ecologies, and as it is we produce neutered flies released in Panama to prevent them from getting too far into the US. Our scientific sector sometimes suggests we should totally finish the job. The screwfly is enemy to all mammal life including human beings.
The screwfly is mostly tropical but can survive far from the equator.
Ask them what lesson the screwfly was meant to teach, or what mystery it holds.
Let’s enter into the fantasy for a moment…
Enough fresh water just dropped on to the ocean to raise its level by a mile or two.
Are we saying that would all instantly mix? Because that seems unlikely. Isn’t it reasonable (in universe) to conclude salt water stayed largely at the bottom and freshwater stayed largely at the top? And the fish survived in their respective parts?
