So if I have read correctly both links talk about the same (the main source for the Cato article is the report from Carl Bernstein) and they state that some reporters that worked at some point in their lives at the Associated Press were tied to the CIA like 50 years ago.
I mean, sure the CIA and other goverment agencies from different countries sure have an interest in deposing Maduro; but claiming that this coverage from AP is propagand (which stance is very much the same as other non-westie sources) is blissful in itself.
I just love when someone doesn’t understand that APnews regularly spreads propaganda. Amazing to me that westies think that propaganda is only something that happens in outside the west. 😂
I really appreciate all the work you do surfacing fresh takes on important global news. It’s a really valuable service to the community, and for that you have my thanks.
I’m also getting tired of the hard propaganda spin you add to the comments, presumably to counter the western propaganda you see responding to your posts.
I’d prefer to see the news without the verbal combat and assumptions that others are deluded or have an agenda.
But it’s your choice. I just may end up spending more time fact checking your statements in the future; it’s a shame to have to do so.
In general, I would encourage you not to take things at face value and actually spend some time learning about topics like this. You shouldn’t take my word for things, but this is obvious to you because what I say often goes against your existing beliefs. It’s even more important to fact check things that align with your biases. The kind of misinformation that’s the most effective is the kind that feeds on what you’re already primed to believe.
edit: quite telling how people start downvoting comments that encourage them to question their conditioning 🤡
These 30 year old books describe the mechanics of western media, which last I checked, haven’t substantially changed today. If anything, propaganda has ramped up as a result of a proxy war with Russia.
I’m anticipating strife and reporting from additional sources. This could get ugly and people should be aware of it.
Note that al-jazeera itself reported this in the article you linked:
“Everything we have seen so far indicates the results of the government are just produced,” Phil Gunson, International Crisis Group’s senior analyst for Venezuela, told Al Jazeera. He claimed the tallies announced by the government-controlled electoral authority did not correspond to the votes cast.
“The result that the opposition claims is the correct one … corresponds very closely to what opinion polls have been saying for the last several months,” Gunson said. “All the partial results we have seen so far indicate the opposition got something like three-fifths of the vote.”
Al-Jazeera also posts bullshit. They’re useful for specific issues in the Middle East because they aren’t totally bought off against Palestine or Iran. They still suffer from the core fallacies of corporate journalism.
Ask certain NGOs and governments for takes, reoeat them uncritically or have some criticise others. Easy way to create or support a nonsense narrative.
A ton of countries send delegations to Venezuela to monitor elections and they always report boring results or are vague (from oppositional countries).
Western propagandists once again disputing an election in Venezuela?!
I just love when someone claims APnews is propagand
What do you think the AP is?
Here’s Cato, not exactly a bastion of truth about the West, listing AP as one of the institutions with deep ties to the CIA
https://www.cato.org/commentary/how-national-security-state-manipulates-news-media#
And here’s a summary/editorial of the findings around CIA and journalism which also directly fingers AP
https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-stone-10-20-1977
So if I have read correctly both links talk about the same (the main source for the Cato article is the report from Carl Bernstein) and they state that some reporters that worked at some point in their lives at the Associated Press were tied to the CIA like 50 years ago.
I mean, sure the CIA and other goverment agencies from different countries sure have an interest in deposing Maduro; but claiming that this coverage from AP is propagand (which stance is very much the same as other non-westie sources) is blissful in itself.
goal posts be moving
I just love when someone doesn’t understand that APnews regularly spreads propaganda. Amazing to me that westies think that propaganda is only something that happens in outside the west. 😂
I just love it when someone posts propaganda and then goes into their own thread attempting to discredit everyone else as propaganda.
PosTinG NeWs abOut ThE ResUltS oF aN EleCtiOn Is PropaGnadA! 🤡
I really appreciate all the work you do surfacing fresh takes on important global news. It’s a really valuable service to the community, and for that you have my thanks.
I’m also getting tired of the hard propaganda spin you add to the comments, presumably to counter the western propaganda you see responding to your posts.
I’d prefer to see the news without the verbal combat and assumptions that others are deluded or have an agenda.
But it’s your choice. I just may end up spending more time fact checking your statements in the future; it’s a shame to have to do so.
In general, I would encourage you not to take things at face value and actually spend some time learning about topics like this. You shouldn’t take my word for things, but this is obvious to you because what I say often goes against your existing beliefs. It’s even more important to fact check things that align with your biases. The kind of misinformation that’s the most effective is the kind that feeds on what you’re already primed to believe.
edit: quite telling how people start downvoting comments that encourage them to question their conditioning 🤡
Do you have a source for that claim?
literal books have been written on the subject
So 30 year old books that talk about press during wartime being propagandist in some cases, with bias in others and heavily politiced in most, sure.
Do you have a source for stating AP spreads propagand routinely nowadays?
These 30 year old books describe the mechanics of western media, which last I checked, haven’t substantially changed today. If anything, propaganda has ramped up as a result of a proxy war with Russia.
another comment in this very thread has the sources regarding AP specifically https://lemmy.ml/post/18538110/12620401
I’m anticipating strife and reporting from additional sources. This could get ugly and people should be aware of it.
Note that al-jazeera itself reported this in the article you linked:
Al-Jazeera also posts bullshit. They’re useful for specific issues in the Middle East because they aren’t totally bought off against Palestine or Iran. They still suffer from the core fallacies of corporate journalism.
Ask certain NGOs and governments for takes, reoeat them uncritically or have some criticise others. Easy way to create or support a nonsense narrative.
A ton of countries send delegations to Venezuela to monitor elections and they always report boring results or are vague (from oppositional countries).