• riodoro1@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yeah, what the fuck is it with glorifying USSR in those posts? Five year plan my fucking ass, the whole eastern block was a removed with no human rights, no liberty and borderline poverty. The progress it made for humanity was negative and we all would be better if lenin and stalin died at birth. Nothing good ever came out of russia and even their socialist revolution turned into oppressing everyone who isn’t at the top very quick.

    If you want to advertise socialism maybe don’t point to the worst implementation of it.

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      3 months ago

      The 5 year plans were part of what made it so bad, too.

      I’m not saying completely free markets are the solution, but a totally planned economy is set to fail because it’s impossible to plan for everything.

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        3 months ago

        a totally planned economy is set to fail because it’s impossible to plan for everything.

        What do you mean? Can you provide an example, and how Capitalism can better account for it?

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          Unregulated capitalism isn’t any better, but for an example, there was mass starvation in the USSR doing some 5 year plans.

          Ultimately you can’t account for every factor - humans, weather, etc. Markets are more efficient than planning in some aspects, but you can’t allow rent seeking capitalists to exploit everyone either. Nationalize everything truly important and what’s allowed to exist as private enterprise, should be heavily regulated.

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            Unregulated capitalism isn’t any better, but for an example, there was mass starvation in the USSR doing some 5 year plans.

            Famine was regular in Tsarist Russia, once farming was collectivized and industrialized famine ended.

            Ultimately you can’t account for every factor - humans, weather, etc. Markets are more efficient than planning in some aspects, but you can’t allow rent seeking capitalists to exploit everyone either. Nationalize everything truly important and what’s allowed to exist as private enterprise, should be heavily regulated.

            None of that is specific, all of that is vibes.