• xor@infosec.pub
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      7 months ago

      i didn’t say misandry is equivalent to racism, i said the exact same argument is used to justify racism.
      but there’s definitely a lot of overlap between prejudice based upon sex/gender vs prejudice based upon perceived race.

      and rape culture isn’t really a thing, it’s not a culture… it’s a problem but that’s the wrong word.
      there’s like, chinese culture and such… there’s no, like, People of the Rape… misogyny is an aspect of many cultures, but it’s not the culture itself and typically rape is extremely prohibited… and had the death penalty in most cultures throughout history…

      misandry is an understandable response but, ultimately it’s not leading towards any solution…

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        People use arguments to justify everything. Sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong. This is a stupid point.

        and rape culture isn’t really a thing, it’s not a culture… it’s a problem but that’s the wrong word.

        If you can’t be bothered to so much as type “what is rape culture” into google, I’m done talking to you

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          let me just google that real quick:
          oh wow! i had noooo idea what you meant by that until i googled using a whole sentence instead of keywords like an idiot… wow, never heard that term before you used…

          yeah i know what is meant by it, and it’s a stupid term…
          car culture is a culture around cars,
          chinese culture is a culture around a people…
          there is no culture around raping…
          in most cultures, rape is seen as pretty bad.
          “rape culture” is a misnomer, it’s a stupid term. It is an invalid term no matter how many websites define it.

          People use arguments to justify everything. Sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong.

          and this may be the dumbest string of words i’ve ever seen put together.
          my point isn’t that they are both arguments, it’s that it’s the EXACT SAME argument, only substituting gender for race… and as such, equally as wrong.

          but, i do agree that it’s pointless trying to talk to someone like you

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            7 months ago

            in most cultures, rape is seen as pretty bad.

            Yes, literally everyone agrees that rape is bad. The problem is that in our culture, we have a bad habit of rationalizing what we do as not really rape. How many times have you heard someone ask what a woman was wearing, or why she was walking home at night instead of driving, or why she was alone at a bar, or why she didn’t fight back, or why she didn’t report sexual violence as soon as it happened? Why does nearly every woman have at least one experience with sexual violence? Why did we elect a guy who openly admitted to sexual assault as president? It’s almost like we have a culture around enabling and forgiving rape, in large part by rationalizing it as “not really” rape. I wonder if there’s a word for a culture that enables sexual violence.

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      It is misandry to generalize and discriminate against men because “all men are dangerous scumbags” or something.

      Besides, it doesn’t help anyone, really, and fosters extra anxieties and aggression.

      We absolutely need cultural shift that would help everyone (both women and men) to expose rapists and any sort of harassment. We need to eliminate any cultural acceptability of those actions that remain.

      We do not need to propagate hate based on gender/sex.

      Absolute majority of men are perfectly normal human beings, like absolute majority of black people aren’t criminals, or absolute majority of gays are not child molesters or whatever the stereotypes were. Besides, all of those traits are immutable.