• Gladaed@feddit.de
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    3 months ago

    This is misleading: Habitat destruction, e.g. Lack of thorny hedges and maize monoculture decimated wild animal population.

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    3 months ago

    What about the loss of habitat, anyone who knows even a little bit about birds, at least in the western hemisphere, know that thousands of species only mate in certain areas in certain times of years. The loss of habitats for mating, the loss of food sources in the remaining habitats from pesticides, and the fact that many pesticides and other pollutants LITERALLY DEGRADE BIRD SHELLS AND KILL THEM BEFORE THEY HATCH

    House cats shouldn’t be putting a fucking dent in bird populations and it’s both absurd to think they’re the real threat and disingenuous to the causes of ill that plague our ecology

    I’m not shitting on you, OP, but in definitely shitting on the person who made this infographic and I’m shitting on the people who continue to push the myth that cats are the leading cause of loss in bird populations. They may kill many birds, but they’re not the reason we’re losing them. Not at all by far.

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      Cat’s shouldn’t be putting a dent in the bird population because they shouldn’t be outside. They’re an invasive species that can definitely destroy local ecosystems.

      Yes habitat destruction is reducing bird population, but that doesn’t excuse the irresponsibility of cat owners that let their cats outside. All that accomplished is creating two problems.

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        I don’t understand why people are so defensive about this. Study after study shows that cats are fucking terrible for native ecosystems.

        Not just that, outdoor cats live much shorter lives. There is literally no reason to put a cat outside unless you hate your pet and your ecosystem.

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          3 months ago

          Except plastic straws don’t really do anything to accelerate climate change and cats can decimate bird populations

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        3 months ago

        I find it weird that Americans never let their cats outside. I mean, they’re outside animals.

        Would you stay indoors forever? No?

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          You don’t let your cats out for the same reason zoos don’t let their bears out into your fucking neighborhood ya goddamn dingus. They don’t belong there and can do serious damage to the local fauna.

          also outdoor cats live an average of 3-5 years.

          Indoor cats live can for 15-20+.

          So sure, if you are pro-premature cat death. Let your pet cat outside.

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            They don’t belong there

            They don’t cause serious ecological harm. Even the fucking bird preservation or whatever body says cats don’t have a serious impact on local bird populations.

            Oh and they do belong outside, actually. They come in and go out as they please.

            Outdoor cats live an average of 3-5 years

            Most cats are outdoor here, and live a damn sight longer than that. My own cat is 7 and counting. I have a relative who had an 18 year old cat.

            Maybe lifespan is different here because we don’t have 10-lane motorways every 10 meters in every direction.

            And for the record, if possible it is better for bears to be, well, outdoors in their natural habitat rather than a zoo.