• 800XL@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The Dems trying to start the campaign over from scratch with someone else this far into the year is just stupid. It’s giving the election to the Republicunts and they’re salivating.

    They shouldn’t have had hm run in the fucking first place and been able to actually plan a campaign. This is so fucking amateurish it’s pathetic.

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      4 months ago

      Strong disagree.

      I live in a small bubble so to speak, and am only as good as what I see online and the few people I talk to about this. I would personally be way more engaged and excited if biden steps down, and so would a few of my friend/colleagues I’m comfortable talking about this topic with.

      I think biden staying in is our worst chance at beating trump. If he leaves dem voters will be energized. If he and kamala are both out, even more energized.

      I’m way way more nervous if biden sticks it out. Biden can barely walk without help, and barely speak coherently. The optics are extremely important. And now dumbass trump has that stupid fist in the air meme.

      He needs to drop out now.

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        As someone that’s mostly been an outsider, this playing out has given me more faith in the Democratic Party than I’ve ever had. For as long as I can remember, they’ve been the feckless, controlled opposition party that might occasionally throw some rights and economic opportunity my way by accident. When they lose a presidential election, it’s always “aw, shucks, we’ll get 'em next time.”

        This isn’t that. This is the party publicly airing no confidence in their president in July in an election year. This is an emergency and they’ve broken the glass because there’s a real threat to the country.

        The glass can’t be unbroken at this point. If somehow Biden still became the nominee, all Trump’s campaign has to do is point out how his party doesn’t even believe he should be president again. The senior party officials knew that going in, and it’s why they must continue to mount private, public, and donor pressure on Biden until he gives it up.

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          I’m just not buying that. I think Biden’s people and a lot of people walking on eggshells for him may have convinced themselves of that (maybe). But I bet that narrative flips the minute he steps down.

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            I’m not buying that. Trying to change candidates this late in the game is such a bad idea that the only person that would suggest it is someone who wants Trump to win.

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              Given that every point of data shows Trump winning in a landside, and probably getting the house and Senate, if Biden stays in suggests that people advocating for Biden staying in want Trump to win.

              See what I did there?

              Fun fact, actual data supports one and only one of us.

              Are you a Russian bot that wants Trump to win?

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                  4 months ago

                  So… Let me get this right. Your only response is literally a named fallacy?

                  What does your gut say the stock market will do next month, oh wonderful and correct Oracle?

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      4 months ago

      I’d also add my speculation that the repubs want biden to stay in, as he’s their best shot at winning.

      Anyone else would be an unknown, and I think would be positive.