The Democratic Socialists of America pulled its endorsement of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York this week, accusing the progressive congresswoman of being insufficiently supportive of the Palestinian cause and efforts to end the war in Gaza…
Her approach has increasingly strained her relationship with some of the left’s most strident critics of Israel. When she rallied last month in the Bronx with Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Jamaal Bowman, dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators angry over her endorsement of Mr. Biden chanted “You’re a fraud, A.O.C.”
Good. No compromise on genocide. Never again means never again.
This gives me some hope for the DSA.
And don’t come at me with “pragmatism”. The pragmatists supported the Nazis.
Apparently, to purists like you, “Never again” means “If it happens anywhere, we should help it happen everywhere we can.” But hey, who cares about minorities in the US, and Ukrainians in Ukraine? Fuck 'em, right?
“Ugh, genocide is bad, but we have other things to worry about right now.”
— You, and most Germans during World War II.
“Genocide is bad, but we have other things to worry about.” - Me, and the US offering vast amounts of Lend-Lease in WW2 to the Soviet Union despite their vast campaigns of ethnic cleansing.
Apparently, by contrast, your position is “Genocide is bad, so we should do everything we can to lose to the Nazis, who will genocide far more people than the Soviet Union. That will really show the fascists! They’ll be SO mad when they herd us into the gas chambers lol!”
genuine question, what alternative is there to voting for whatever candidate the democrats run with?
Serious replies:
Developing alternate forms of power to ‘vote once every four years’. Now, I realize it’s probably not the answer you’re looking for as obviously that won’t just happen in time for this election, but it’s necessary to understand the material power we hold as workers in society, unless you’re actually happy with whatever candidates the Democrats run with. There have been times where worker action hindered genocidal regimes and wars by cutting off supply and pressuring our governments into pulling support.
Pressuring the Democrats away from running certain candidates
Somehow making a third-party popular enough to threaten your local seat [probably not feasible for most seats?]
Somehow abolishing the broken FPTP voting system
[probably not feasible?]right but couldn’t you vote for the democrats and also do those things? it’s not really a one or the other kind of situation
Definitely, and for most people (there are rare exceptions, like seats which aren’t just Dem vs. Rep as the only viable candidates) I’d assume it’s the pragmatic choice for now given the broken system.
Not feasible? Then why do Alaska and Maine use something other then First Past The Post voting?
How we vote is controlled at the state level, we can push through reform one state at a time!
My mistake, I heard about those but assumed it only applied for state-level politicians, not federal politicians they elect. Thanks for letting me know!
Ranked. Choice. Voting.
Green party and Cornel West.
Join the DSA?
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The Ukraine war is a big source of actual leftie infighting. But DSA did not withdraw their endorsement on that. This is a strawman.
Dems wanted lefties to compromise and they did. Then Dems want lefties to compromise some more.
The Genocide in Gaza is not up to debate for any leftie. And Bernie and AOC have even promoted the Genocide at the start of it by refusing to call it a Genocide, and refusing to call for a ceasefire.
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Removed, misinformation.
https://www.dsausa.org/statements/on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/
“This extreme and asymmetrical escalation is an illegal act under the United Nations Charter and severely threatens the livelihoods and well-being of working-class peoples in Ukraine, Russia, and across the region. We urge an immediate ceasefire and the total withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine.”
Source that they’re foreign assets?
You could say the same exact thing about AIPAC. It’s also a membership-led and membership-funded organization where the vast majority of it’s funding coming from private donations… yet somehow I don’t think you’ll have the same reaction to them being foreign assets. The reality is that both of these organizations advance the interests of foreign governments over America’s, only difference is that Israel is a US ally and the countries that the DSA chooses to align itself with are American adversaries.
AIPAC lobby’s for Israel. What foreign government does the DSA lobby for?
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https://www.dsausa.org/statements/on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/
That’s a good way to describe how the DSA views political power.