• алсааас [she/her]@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
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    If you can’t think of any situation where you would apply a similar or the same principle, then perhaps you should re-examine on what basis you’re justifying the Romanov family’s situation. On a pre-existing principle of pragmatism? Or operating from the preconception that the murder was correct, and then working backwards to find a justification?

    On the basis that I cannot recall a situation in which – in my opinion – progressive revolutionaries should have strayed from the principle of rehabilitation and avoiding harming innocents

    Edit. when taken out of the context of the conversation, this might look like I’m contradicting myself. What it means: no such situation except as the one I described in the conversation prior

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      On the basis that I cannot recall a situation in which – in my opinion – progressive revolutionaries should have strayed from the principle of rehabilitation and avoiding harming innocents

      Except wrt the Romanov family, it would seem.

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        Yes exactly, because no other such peculiar situation as I have described has happened to progressive revolutionaries AFAIK. Is that so hard to understand?

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          Yes exactly, because no other such peculiar situation as I have described has happened to progressive revolutionaries AFAIK.

          … you think… foreign invaders attempting to re-instate the old dynasty on the throne during a civil war over progressive revolution… is a peculiar situation that had never happened before or since the Russian Civil War?

          Are you fucking serious right now?

          Is that so hard to understand?

          It is extremely hard to understand why you insist that it’s unique, yes.

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            Yekaterinburg was about to be captured by the whites, that’s my whole point. The situation in the ground is complementary to the overarching political one

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              Yekaterinburg was about to be captured by the whites, that’s my whole point. The situation in the ground is complementary to the overarching political one

              It’s a good thing no one involved literally and personally went to Moscow, and then back to Yekaterinburg. That would really reveal a stunning solution of ‘moving the royal family’ that might render the “Yekaterinburg is about to fall!” excuse utterly hollow.