• passntrash@midwest.social
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    5 months ago

    While I doubt this actually happened, I’m still disturbed by everyone cheering it on absent any context that would make OP not look like a petulant child.

    Quitting without notice doesn’t require justification, fuck the bosses, whatever.

    But for all we know, this manager had bent over backwards to stand up for their employees, or cover for them. Maybe this employee took advantage of that and was miserable to his coworkers. Those are just as likely as anything else, given that no further information was provided.

    At least invent a backstory how this manager was dogshit or abusive, or the company was awful. Make us want to believe that you’re not just someone with a persecution complex who’s quick to anger and lash out.

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      5 months ago

      I’d be more inclined to see your point, except that the manager in question said “each job requires 2 weeks notice” like he was indignant that he didn’t get something he deserved.

      That’s not only not true at all, it’s active manipulation on their part in a hail Mary attempt to have their work covered for enough time to look for another employee.

      It may be unprofessional to quit without notice, but it’s really unprofessional to present the act of quitting as requiring 2 weeks’ notice, particularly in a place that might also allow the employer to fire someone for any reason at any time with no notice.

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        it’s really unprofessional to present the act of quitting as requiring 2 weeks’ notice

        If it’s part of the contract then it’s not unprofessional at all to bring up the terms that you’ve agreed on. My job requires a month’s notice and it wouldn’t be unprofessional for my employer to bring that up if I tried to quit on the spot.

        That being said, I don’t live in a place with “at-will employment”, which is a fucking travesty and should never have been allowed in the first place.

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          I’m not from the US but I always assumed “at-will employment” works both ways. You’re telling me it doesn’t?

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            It’s not typically written into the contract for most jobs I’ve seen, but it’s still considered very unprofessional to leave without giving the company time to find a replacement. It doesn’t just mess with the company or your boss; it messes with your coworkers, too, who now have to pick up the slack.

            Basically, while it’s not written into your contract, it’s still considered socially unacceptable not to give a two week notice barring any unusual circumstances.

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              It’s not unprofessional at all; at worst, it’s discourteous, because notice of departure has zero to do with your professional conduct, it’s a courtesy. You can professionally quit on the spot, look:

              “Due to a change of personal circumstances, I will be resigning immediately, effective at the end of the day. I will work with you to make this transition as smooth as possible within that timeframe, but it is not negotiable.”

  • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    No notice for 20,000 layoffs? Oops, 2 weeks from… uh, 2 weeks ago.

    The key is to dip after changing the password on the vital database they decided one person was enough to manage ;)

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      Exactly this. If you don’t want me to quit without notice, do you also vote against politicians who vote for “right-to-work” legislation?

      Yeah, you don’t get to write a fucking law that says you can fire me on the spot for any reason at all and then insist that I give you two weeks.

      Besides, these days it’s a different world - there’s a labor shortage. A serious one. Warm body? You’re hired. Nobody gives a fuck. They can’t afford to. Especially in minimum wage.

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        Unless you’re in IT, apparently? Idk.

        Relatedly, my conspiracy theory is that the spate of recent layoffs are coordinated pushback against all the strikes and unionizing as well as pushback against RTO etc. Just a wild idea I had… May be total horseshit, idk.

        On the other hand, we have seen collusion in the past within some sectors (e.g., price fixing, no poach agreements, wage fixing), and antitrust violations often go unpunished or weakly penalized, corporate leadership is strongly driven by profit often to the exclusion of ethics and at the expense of all else. And employee compensation is a significant part of most company budgets. So, I think my wild idea is at least somewhat plausible.

        • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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          Unless you’re in IT, apparently? Idk

          As someone from IT, there isn’t really a shortage. There are literal crowds of quite advanced developers searching for jobs. The only problem is that they don’t have commercial experience and all companies only want seniors/teamleads/cto’s with 10+ years of experience, to do at best middle-level developer’s jobs. The shortage is artificial, but, I’m not complaining, as it’s the only reason I get paid decent wage.