cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17119069

“In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law,” warned Justice Sonia Sotomayor. “With fear for our democracy, I dissent.”

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    This is oversimplifying it. They did not define “official acts”, obviously, but goose and gander. Biden is now available to use these new powers, and should.

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      In her dissent, Sotomayor made it pretty clear that that doesn’t matter.

      “When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution,” Sotomayor wrote. “Orders the Navy’s SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.”

      “In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law,” the justice added.

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        The dissent is not the prevailing ruling though. The other MAGA dip shits on the court just left the door open to anything for the next 6 months. All horrific derivatives of this timeline, sure. But they can’t stop the current administration apparently from doing the same shit without immunity until the next ruling. They’re just banking on the fact that Biden isn’t a gigantic piece of shit and will never pull the trigger on using any of these options.

        I guarantee his team is sitting in a room right now coming up with ideas.

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          Yeah I hear you, but that door they left open is exactly why it doesn’t matter. By not defining official acts, they essentially gave themselves the authority to make that determination later, which means anything done as president can be considered official, as long as they say so. This was another power grab for them and any republicans who want to use it, but you can be sure the rules would be different for democrats.

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            That’s why the conservative SC justices would have to be declared enemy combatants, terrorists, or an emergency threat and be locked up. Now they cannot rule against the president. Or rush to pack the SC with friendly justices after removing the conservative ones, and lock up any members of congress who won’t approve the judges.

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            Not until October, and they won’t have enough time to do anything to fast track a damn thing depending on what happens. If it happens bettnow and then, it happens.

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          If Biden were to use his powers to force the 6 conservative Supreme Court Justices out, then there wouldn’t be anybody on the court who would disagree with the minority interpretation.

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            This here. As a European I am extremely worried about what is coming in US politics. I really really hope Biden will make use of this with foolproof consequences.

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              He won’t. America is fucked. This corruption will have an effect on the entire world.

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          I guarantee his team is sitting in a room right now coming up with ideas.

          No, they aren’t. Their plan is to yell really loudly about how unacceptable the ruling is. That’s it.

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      If Biden does the exact same thing as the orange turd, the packed courts will rule that Biden’s actions were not official but the angry orange’s were.

      The decision is entirely a power grab that will be abused by conservatives and not by anyone with morals. That is what these fascists are counting on.

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        Biden could unpack those courts as an official act and pack it with his own judges, who would rule on the outcome.

        This is obviously what Trump would do in the same position. But it’s highly doubtful that Biden will.

        It would set an insanely dangerous precedent. But if he doesn’t, Republicans will the next time they hold the presidency.

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          They don’t even need to. The same court that made this decision will say everything he does is official and (now) very legal. Some old conservatives will retire to be replaced by Eileen Cannon (she gets both of their seats), and the court just needs to sit back and endorse the fascism. They’ve already done the daring act, now everything else is procedure.

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          Biden won’t abuse this power because he isn’t a complete trash person and SCOTUS knows it. They know that the only party that will abuse this power is the Republican party.

          So until this trash opinion is undone, every single election is an imminent threat to democracy.

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            They should be terrified of what Trump would do to them with this power, though. History has shown time and time again that, just because Trump likes you today, that doesn’t mean he won’t fire you tomorrow. Or in this case, should I say “fire” you tomorrow.

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              Leopards won’t eat their faces. Or if it seems like they will, they’ll just do what he wants. They may have tried to maintain appearances of doing law, just conservatively, during his presidency, but since then they’ve abandoned it and are just a kangaroo court. You don’t declare the president a king and precedent optional while still maintaining some pretense of justice. They think they’ve won and now is the time to put their plans into motion.