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Honestly maybe we should be calling them the tankies at this point
they’re dronies, because they’re in favor of drone strikes
I mean … one of these is a violent conflict where mostly civilians are being hit, on both sides. The other is a country defending itself from an invasion. One of these is really complicated and I’m pretty sure violence won’t solve much. The other one really isn’t complicated on the same level and violence (defense) is pretty much the only choice.
One of these is really complicated and I’m pretty sure violence won’t solve much.
We’re talking about the Ukraine-Russia conflict from the Ukrainian government’s perspective, right?
Right? :padme:
Ukraine isn’t “defending itself from an invasion”. Ukraine’s democratically elected government was overthrown by a US sponsored military coup. The coup was carried out by Nazis that want to ethnically cleanse ethnic Russians from the territory. The Russian majority areas voted overwhelmingly to secede from Ukraine and called on Russia to protect them when the Ukrainian coup government invaded them.
Russia’s goal is not “conquering all of Ukraine”. Russia’s military objectives are
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Halting the ongoing killing of ethnic Russians in the Donbas Republics by the Ukrainian nazi coup government.
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Disabling the nazi coup government’s military capacity to act as a staging ground for US attacks on Russia.
Russia has continually offered ceasefires with the only substantive condition being “stop killing Russians”, and the nazi coup government has been unwilling to negotiate because the US has told them they’re not permitted to stop killing.
Well, that at least explains what community I ended up in. Thanks for the clarification.
Translation:
willful ignorance is definitely preferable to learning anything! keep up the good work, friend
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Unfortunately isn’t that simple. If you would like to know more about the Ukrain conflict than please read “How the West Brought War to Ukraine: Understanding How U.S. and NATO Policies Led to Crisis, War, and the Risk of Nuclear Catastrophe” by Benjamin Abelow. It gives a far more balanced en factual analysis about the conflict.
Maybe how the conflict itself came to be isn’t simple (and calling anything simple that involves politics is probably always wrong). But the situation for the people in the Ukraine itself is pretty simple. They’re being attacked and they’re defending themselves.
You could say the same for the people in Palestine. They’re forced to live under the boot of an oppressive apartheid regime and they’re trying to free themselves. Pretty simple, right?
Apparently that’s an unpopular opinion, but to free themselves the ideal path forward is to conduct terrorist attacks on civilians? That certainly didn’t seem to improve things. And bombing civilians isn’t a great response either.
Didn’t Ukraine literally just launch missile/artillery attacks at random civilian targets in Donetsk… The same thing they’ve been doing for almost a decade?
also they’ve been carrying out improvised drone bombings on Russian civilian centres like Moscow
