Exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those apps are using payment processors outside the EU to circumvent this. So assuming those apps are not warning the users for “no refunds”, who else is gonna give some kind of warning?
I’m a EU citizen residing outside the EU, so my knowledge on this is not exactly up to date.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those apps are using payment processors outside the EU to circumvent this.
You misunderstood. It’s based on the country they are operating in (not where they are based). If they take payments from EU citizens, they are bound by EU law.
So theoretically that sounds great, but practically it would have to be Apple to kick those apps from the platform if the apps are not abiding EU law, or how does that work?
If the app developer uses non-Apple payment processor, those refunds would be handled by that payment processor. The potencial app removal would be handled by Apple or alternative store it’s installed from.
Yet still, is it then so wrong to warn a user beforehand that the payment processor isn’t going to be Apple? I’m not sure what your idea is that the EU should do here? No warning from anyone seems to be a recipe for scamming.
It implies that Apple payment system is the only “private and secure payment system”. Which is false, as we covered every single payment processor operating in the EU (as in allowed to take payments from EU citizens) is private and secure as that’s a requirement for them to even be able to operate in the first place.
If the warning was “App uses external payment processor”. That would have been a different story, no?
If a payment processor won’t comply, you can ask for a chargeback at your bank, and if it keeps happening, the payment processor can be blocked from accepting EU payments at all.
All banks/approved payment proccesors operating in the EU comply with that as it’s mandated by law. Note that I said operating, not based.
Exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those apps are using payment processors outside the EU to circumvent this. So assuming those apps are not warning the users for “no refunds”, who else is gonna give some kind of warning?
I’m a EU citizen residing outside the EU, so my knowledge on this is not exactly up to date.
You misunderstood. It’s based on the country they are operating in (not where they are based). If they take payments from EU citizens, they are bound by EU law.
So theoretically that sounds great, but practically it would have to be Apple to kick those apps from the platform if the apps are not abiding EU law, or how does that work?
If the app developer uses non-Apple payment processor, those refunds would be handled by that payment processor. The potencial app removal would be handled by Apple or alternative store it’s installed from.
Yet still, is it then so wrong to warn a user beforehand that the payment processor isn’t going to be Apple? I’m not sure what your idea is that the EU should do here? No warning from anyone seems to be a recipe for scamming.
It implies that Apple payment system is the only “private and secure payment system”. Which is false, as we covered every single payment processor operating in the EU (as in allowed to take payments from EU citizens) is private and secure as that’s a requirement for them to even be able to operate in the first place.
If the warning was “App uses external payment processor”. That would have been a different story, no?
No it wouldn’t need to be Apple.
If a payment processor won’t comply, you can ask for a chargeback at your bank, and if it keeps happening, the payment processor can be blocked from accepting EU payments at all.
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What you’ve quoted isn’t what I asked.
Edit: Seems users here are too immature for any discussion other than blind hate.
It’s always fun to see cult members break down when they have no arguments and call everyone else crazy…
And you say the american education system is the problem.