this reminds me of the advice for people who win the lottery
make an anonymous LLC company to accept your win, so you can stay incognito
pay a lawyer and an accountant so you can continue to stay incognito and only tell your trusted friends and family about your good fortune
so crazy assholes don’t come for you or them
I guess this now applies to making it big in crypto money
That some messed up US thing i never understood. Here in germany you are anonymous by default when you win. at most it is published from what state the winner was.
That someone’s name and even address is published is so completely unimaginably absurd to me. makes no sense whatsoever.
Fiduciary and accountant. Though the accountant may be redundant there. Fiduciaries are a specific type of lawyer/ financial advisor that is required to look out for your best interests, not theirs.
What knowing someone rich in an untraceable currency does to a greedy ass criminal .
If you are rich, or at least well-off, SHUT UP. Conventional currencies already cause this, imagine untraceable currencies like crypto is.
in an untraceable currency
The majority of cryptos are far from “untraceable”, just harder to prove depending on how well they laundered it.
They have to be loud about it because they are crypto influencers. If they shut up after getting rich they lose it all.
As much as I dislike crypto, this is not a crypto fail story, even though the article paints it like that a few times (or at least the tone implies).
No one should have their finger servered because of other people’s greediness.
These are the occasions I wish death penalty was a thing, especially for those cases where the idiots have been caught in the act - there are better things to do with my tax money than making sure they have a place to live in and some nice good meals to go with it.
Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.
We need more Gandalves and less Sarumen.
The death penalty doesn’t work at all because the state serves capital (among other reasons). The worst offenders are never punished.
If you want the death penalty, there are far worse crimes than this. Just look at the genocide of Palestinians. Those murderers are invited to dinner with presidents.
As a side note. A death penalty case actually costs more than a life sentence.
In the US where they decided to make the punitive system for-profit?
Of course.
These are the occasions I wish death penalty was a thing, especially for those cases where the idiots have been caught in the act - there are better things to do with my tax money than making sure they have a place to live in and some nice good meals to go with it.
I do understand how you feel about that and I do kinda feel the same, BUT … you always have to assure that every last person has rights and gets acceptable treatment, even the ones who seemingly have no soul. Because if there’s ever a category of people without rights, any government would have an easy way to get rid of eveyone critizing them.
Thats bullshit. Not all people deserve to be treated as people. Some are just garbage. That includes serial killers and ones mentioned in this article
And then you critize the government, get a sham trial and are marked for your crime as some kind of “garbage person” without rights. Afterwards, execution or locking away and maybe throw in some torture for the fun of it. This is reality already. It just hasn’t been done to you.
You can feel about it however you want, I may even feel the same with some people, but as an adult, we have to use logic.
The point is, there must never be an official group of people without rights you can just “get rid of” im some way. This limit is not for the punished, it exists to shield the innocent.
There’s this one Nazi CEO that I hope we can agree either has no soul or at least one that we could do without. Yet we’re not killing him.
Killing people is wrong and while there may be factors that make it seem more warranted, nothing will ever make it right.
nothing will ever make it right.
Strongly disagree. If someone had killed Musk a year ago, the world would be a different place today. A better place, I think.
If someone had killed Trump ten years ago, how many COVID deaths would be avoided? How much damage to our economy would not have happened? How many hungry people across the world would still have food from a USAID shipment?
There are plenty of times it would be right to kill people. But who can we trust to make that decision? I’m confident I’m right, but I would not want to have to do it.
While I do recognise the colloquial and unserious tone of your argument, I have to disagree wholeheartedly: Human right are universal.
I mean, it’s hard. I’m not really against death penalty on its own, I think there are crimes which deserve exactly that. My issue with death penalty is how easy it is to misuse. So in a theoretical world where some perfect entity with no ability to make mistakes decides who gets it, I’m 100% in favour. In the real world, not so much.
As long as we have the option to separate and isolate, nobody deserves to be killed. The death penalty is nothing more than formalised murder, however one chooses to look at it.
Atonement and facing the consequences of one’s actions during a long life in prison is a fate worse than death IMO. Even for a sociopath.
And it is false that the death penalty is cheaper than life sentences: https://sites.psu.edu/bleonard/2020/11/30/the-death-penalty-v-life-in-prison/
But above it all, while there are persons unjustly sentenced to death and found later Innocent, can we really keep doing this?
That’s a very American context where prisons are for-profit companies (wtf USA?), that’s why everything is so expensive. In a normal country death sentence wouldn’t cost nearly as much.
The prisons that hold death row inmates are not private, for-profit companies. The numbers have been falling steadily and are incredibly low. Still a problem, because that number is high enough to have stupid amounts of influence, but it has nothing to do with death penalty costs. Those are all because we afford death row inmates a large amount of appeals, which costs ‘lawyer money’ where some prosecuting lawyer pretends he wasn’t on a salary and they claim it’s worth X hours x Y wage, and the defense attorney does the same but with a little more truth because he is getting paid by the hour.
Sure, you can call it that and yeah, it might make some people think more before being in favour of it just because it doesn’t sound as bad.
But I disagree with the first part, plenty deserve to be killed, always had and always will.
In theory death penalty is exactly that - people justly decide that someone harms society too much and they don’t want that person in society.
(again, note that I don’t think it should be implemented in real world because of how easily corruptible people are)
No. Murder is murder. There is no rationalising one’s way around it. There is no acceptable context for killing someone other than immediate self-defence, which is not the case when discussing things in terms of justice systems.
Killing is never justice.
There is no acceptable context for killing someone other than immediate self-defence
But you know he’s gonna kill a hundred people next week. Starve ten thousands people to death over the next six months. Start world war 3, and cause the death of millions of people. Those people people have no recourse to self defence, but you could defend them, right now.
Again, this is not immediate self-defence, this is something else entirely: this type of situation demands systemic change.
As a Romanian, our Revolution ended the instant the people took back control of this nation and Ceaușescu had no more power (it was obvious, because literally nobody was taking orders from him at that point). Then they shot him. Then they shot his wife. That’s the point when the Revolution just turned into mob murder.
In this case, it is the people’s duty to protect their collective interests, yes, but killing still isn’t justified. You remove them from authority then send them on their merry way to live out their standards alone, far from the rest of us.
Friggin’ children know this already, if someone doesn’t play nice, you stop playing with them. Why the hell are we still debating the ““virtues”” of murder?!
Universal but also uninalienable
I dont like death penalty for the people who would deserve it because it lets them off too easy. Why should they be allowed to leave this hell in easy way while we have to remain.
And what does that achieve? Nothing. It’s just revenge which is useless. If it’s an easy way out, so be it. It’s also an easy way away from others.
Not sure about death penalty, but having access to euthanasia both inside and outside prison feels like a better solution. Outside first, you don’t want people commiting crimes just to access euthanasia.Isn’t being jailed forever also an “easy way out”? I’m sure there are people on this planet who are not in jail, but, because of too little money or other circumstances, have less and get treated worse than people in jail.
Also, if being alive really is hell to you, you might want to do something about this.
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It seems this has been unclear. By “do something about this” I meant speaking about the problem or therapy or the like. Yes, life sucks some times, but if being alive is hell for you, you got a problem to fix.
But not like that, please, there are usually other options.
