The West was moving to the right — and then Donald Trump got elected again

Something is happening among America’s allies, and it’s a tremendous relief. For some years now, we’ve seen the MAGA-infused global right gaining a foothold amongst western democracies, largely driven by the same demagogic, nationalist, pseudo-populism that has fueled Donald Trump’s dominance on the American right.

Some countries like Hungary have served as a sort of experiment for the kind of post-democratic autocracies dreamt of by the modern right wing in which government co-opts, intimidates and de-legitimizes the political opposition to create an authoritarianism that dominates the culture and the politics without a lot of overt violence.

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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      12 minutes ago

      Be nice to the people threatening to annex and bomb an ally… ? you be nice first.

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      5 hours ago

      As long as you voted against him, yes.

      If someone said “oh they’re both the same” or “Kamala didn’t make her position clear enough on ______” or any of the other excuses, they need to bear the full brunt of their (in)decision.

      I’ve zero sympathy for those fools.

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        Very right wing of you to have no sympathy for people born less intelligent than you. Fools should not be blamed. A system that allows fools to be swayed and to be the deciding factor is where the blame should go.

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          7 minutes ago

          The incels had a choice to listen to reason. They went out of their way to bully. Many ppl vulnerable got affected by this unfairly.

          That’s not a stupidity that needs an advocate.

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          Blaming the system is a cop out. It didn’t happen before, because the electorate held their representatives to some kind of standard. Now, your representatives tell you what to think and y’all just nod your heads like lambs to the slaughter

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          Even the dumbest person knows how to be kind to others. You don’t have to be smart to not want to wish ill upon others.

          People vote for Trump purely because they want others to suffer more than they do. If you vote for someone who wants to deport “brown people” then you know fully he won’t be kind to them. If you vote for someone who wants to punish others for doing trade then you know fully well people will suffer. If you think being gay, trans or whatever is a disease and people should be punished for it then there is something very wrong with you.

          I indeed have no sympathy for people who voted for Trump. If you voted for him you’re an asshole and just want people to suffer.

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          Fools should not be blamed. A system that allows fools to be swayed […bad grammar…] is where the blame should go.

          While the system bears its share of blame, it is the unquestioning enablers, those who readily consume its dictates, who breathe life into its flaws. Just as tolerance cannot survive by tolerating intolerance, wisdom cannot flourish when we indulge foolishness. To dismantle a flawed system, we must first challenge those who sustain it.

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          I don’t know. Unintelligent or even uneducated is easy to label the Maga crowd, and certainly many of them deserve that. But not all of them. I know a few who are well educated but just seem racist or 'i got mine" types.

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            Yes there are woefully evil regardless of education. Even if you tried to nurture them with better ideas they’d reject it.

            Incels come to mind.