German AfD party labeled 'extremist' by intelligence agency – DW – 05/02/2025
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The agency cited a "xenophobic, anti-minority, Islamophobic" rhetoric among the reasons for the designation. The label gives authorities more power to investigate the far-right party.

Germany’s spy agency BfV has labeled the entirety of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party as an extremist entity.

The BfV domestic intelligence agency, which is in charge of safeguarding Germany’s constitutional order, said the announcement comes after an “intense and comprehensive” examination.

“The ethnicity-and ancestry-based conception of the people that predominates within the party is not compatible with the free democratic order,” the BfV said on Friday.

Hopefully this inspires the other parties to to start the process to see the AfD banned. I know the report might not look like much, because of how obvious the findings are. But previous attempts at banning them have failed because such an official report was missing. So maybe our political system starts getting its shit together.

As we say in Germany: Hope dies last

  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    4 days ago

    First, this really jumped out from your post:

    you people got Trump elected

    Perfect illustration of somebody who mentally reduces other human beings from persons into groups.

    The curious thing is that somebody who thinks like that about human beings is pushing a “nothing we can do about it with certainty, let’s not talk about the Gaza Genocide”…

    Second: how exactly does the political system in the US make this behaviour of the German authorities and political class any less hypocrite? In fact, how does it at all relate given that Germany has a mixed system including a Proportional Vote component, so totally different from the US?

    Third: What’s exactly is your point? Because that exact argument structure can justify closing your eyes and make believe it ain’t happening for everything bad :

    • Gaza Genocide: “no evidence that their preferred option changes anything about it”
    • Environmental destruction: “no evidence that their preferred option changes anything about it”
    • Fascism; “no evidence that their preferred option changes anything about it”
    • Poverty: “no evidence that their preferred option changes anything about it”

    Best just give up on politics altogether to stop evil-doing! How convenient for the evil-doers.

    • taladar@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      4 days ago

      Perfect illustration of somebody who mentally reduces other human beings from persons into groups.

      Yes, I consider all the people who argue “the Gaza genocide should be the most important political issue of our time in every country of the world” one group, namely the group of people who bring it up in every political discussion everywhere.

      The curious thing is that somebody who thinks like that about human beings is pushing a “nothing we can do about it with certainty, let’s not talk about the Gaza Genocide”…

      The curious thing is that somebody who complains about the genocide why the extremist right wing party in Israel keeps derailing discussions on how to prevent extremist right wing parties from gaining power in other countries too.

      Second: how exactly does the political system in the US make this behaviour of the German authorities and political class any less hypocrite? In fact, how does it at all relate given that Germany has a mixed system including a Proportional Vote component, so totally different from the US?

      The common theme between Germany and the US is both countries are in various stages of a struggle of right wing extremists gaining power while at the same time the political discussion on how to stop that is sabotaged by people bringing up the Gaza genocide as if any of the options would change anything about the Gaza genocide in the slightest. Will the Gaza genocide be any more or less likely if we do or do not ban the AfD in Germany? No, it won’t, so shut up about it in the context of this discussion and stop trying to derail it.

      Best just give up on politics altogether to stop evil-doing! How convenient for the evil-doers.

      Can’t do that, then you would have succeeded in your goal of allowing them to come into power.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        4 days ago

        Yes, I consider all the people who argue “the Gaza genocide should be the most important political issue of our time in every country of the world” one group, namely the group of people who bring it up in every political discussion everywhere.

        Please point out exactly were I said that “Gaza genocide should be the most important political issue of our time in every country of the world”

        Beyond that:

        • I’m making the point, repeatedly, that politicians building support at home for their policies of supporting far-right extremism abroad (which is what Israel - an ethno-Fascist white colonialist nation with Appartheid constitutionally enshrined - is as is it’s ultra-racist Genocide in Gaza) is tightly related to the growth of far-right extremism at home because to do the former means spreading the way of viewing the world of the far-right hence it boosts the latter.
        • Your whole point is “if you go after one of those things you stop the other thing from being addressed”, which implies that those things are totally unrelated, plus it relies on the ridiculous falacy that people cannot deal with more than one problem at the same time.

        Your point relies on the notion that repeated and overt statements in favour of Racial Descrimination (which is exactly what people like Schulz do when they say that “Germany unwaveringly supports the Jewish Nation” to justify sending weapons to Israel to carry on executing their Genocide) somehow don’t embolden Racists to think that “Racism is ok” and hence that those criticizing the former somehow, magically, are derrailing the fight against the latter.