• LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
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    I don’t know what to think anymore. I feel like every week for the last 4 years it’s been “China’s economy is going collapse any day now” and “Russia is losing so many people and resources in this war. They might as well give all of Russia to Ukraine”

    I don’t take any news written in English with any seriousness for these two countries.

    Also, pretty sure modern warfare has learned heavily that tanks are completely obsolete against drones. Or even less modern warfare tells us how useless they are in cities against gorilla fighters.

    • lumony@lemmings.world
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      I don’t take any news written in English with any seriousness for these two countries.

      Thank you. I’m glad other people are starting to realize that all of our information is fed through an English-speaking filter first.

      If we want to see more than what English-speakers have deemed palatable for us, we need to learn different languages.

      it’s sad how we can’t overcome propaganda and at least make an attempt to understand the truth, but it really puts into perspective why I should not respect the vast majority of my peers in the modern day.

      Too many people are overtaken by hysteria.

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      Unless the Ukrainians have resorted to conscripting great apes, it’s “guerilla” rather than “gorilla”.

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      Russia has been coasting on old Soviet stock for a while. Most of their modern t-90s and t-14s have been exploded. They’ve been sending mothballs tanks and apcs to the front for years now. Last year a good deal of frontline troops were using unarmored Chinese golf carts to move around. They never had the manufacturing capability to keep modernized armor at the front, and it is costing russian lives

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        t-14s have been exploded

        Ehhhh, more like they only had like 15 of the things and none where really out of a prototype phase. Not worth sending due to the bad propaganda when they do get blown up (since there has been no tank platform in that conflict that does not get got).

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          I think Ukraine scored kills on one or two t-14s in the first year before Russia realized their mistake. I’ll have to double check though.

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            Why is it impossible for a squadron of F-22s to defeat a squadron of SU-57s?

            Russia would have to actually build a squadron first

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      Russia has spent up enough of of their mainline modern vehicles like T-90Ms to a point where the refurbishments have long ago stopped keeping up. Similarly IFVs are lost, especially many of their airborne models which were misused early in the war.

      The war has become much more static, with Russian vehicle losses slowing them down. The final assault on Avdiivka for example was completely brutal, lasting a month and consisting of a lot of unsupported infantry charges over an open field. The Russians did eventually win, taking the fortified position they were assaulting, but the tactics used and amount of losses to do them are not something that would have happened if they’d had the vehicles to spare.

      The shear scale of the war has had Russia brute force it from being a maneuver fight to an attrition fight, and Russia appears to be banking on having the higher population to win. How that will resolve is up in the air, Ukraine wants to turn it back into a maneuver war I think and I don’t know if they can. The propaganda from the war by both sides can make it difficult to get a clear up to date picture.

      Also, pretty sure modern warfare has learned heavily that tanks are completely obsolete against drones. Or even less modern warfare tells us how useless they are in cities against [guerrilla] fighters.

      Tanks are one tool in the box, and like any other tool they are adapting to drones. Drones are not a silver bullet, and they especially are not as useful in supporting or spearheading fast moving offensives, which is still an important role tanks will fill. Active protection systems, electronic warfare (both jamming and signal detection to track down enemy drone operators), and tank based drones are all in play to figure out how to best do things now.

      As for cities, tanks have always had trouble in cities. This isn’t a revelation of this war. Militaries tend to be skiddish of putting tanks in city fights unless they really have to. Russia particularly still has memories of Chechnya in this regard.

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      I don’t take any news written in English with any seriousness for these two countries.

      Where do you get trusted news then for these two countries?

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      Because fog of war and propaganda is very strong from all sides.

      Not to mention that all of these things can be true as they don’t negate each other.