• gamer@lemm.ee
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    New world order: Putin dies, successor adopts democracy and joins NATO, Trump leaves NATO and goes full authoritarian, US becomes new dictatorship while Russia becomes new leader of the free world.

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      Even if Putin’s successor adopts real democracy, it will take generations to change the national psyche that thinks they need a strong leader. As much as the west hates Putin, he does have real support among the people. At least as long as he remains strong.

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        Most importantly, it takes rewriting their school books… The Russian school books on mathematics and on Russian language rant about Russian supremacy.

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      A Russian leadership change would be good enough to stop the Ukrainian war. Any new leader would need resources close to hold power.

      This also just wont happen, Trump is the figure uniting the fascists in the US when he pops it topples and the spell is broken. There is a lot of horrible factors and clean up to be done but Trump doesn’t have the means to go full auhtoritarian I dont think.

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        Trump is the figure uniting the fascists in the US when he pops it topples and the spell is broken.

        I sincerely hope so, but I don’t find that likely. People aren’t turning to fascism just because they like him, they’re doing so because they aren’t able to think critically, or are hateful, or are looking for easy answers to the complex issues fucking up their lives, or all of the above.

        Trump didn’t get to power in a vacuum. The political environment is ripe for it.

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          Absolutely, but Trump is the centre of it. There is a reason fascism fails after leaders die, it is difficult to sustain. There isnt enough foundations yet for itnto survive after.

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          Even so, Drumphs “charisma”, whatever the fuck that is, is the glue holding all the shit people together. JD Vance isn’t going to be able to threaten GOP congressturds and senaturds with primaries. No-one even likes him, it’s just his attachment to Drumphs starfish that gives him any power.

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      Russia has tried joining NATO before, NATO wasn’t really interested. It’s one of the main reasons Russia is convinced NATO is inherently hostile to Russia.

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        Russia’s behaviour whilst holding a veto in the UN Security Council pretty much proves to NATO that Russia would only be an obstacle, and no asset at all. Fuck Russia! With a giant cactus. No lube!