Warranted. Look at their progress, their lack of aggression and social cohesion. They’re winning mate. Maybe we’d better stop jeering and start taking notes. From an Aussie UK bloke who is not on Xi’s payroll.
No, not at all. Given the choice of a Chinese or American future, looking at the current state of affairs, I’d go China. Americans have completely lost the plot. I’m not only considering the administration, but the nutters who demand the right to bear arms resulting in their kids getting shot in schools, the plastic consumerism, lack of healthcare, homelessness. They’re a sick society full of religious fanatics and racists. China isn’t perfect but they’re level headed and pragmatic. Fusion power, space race, they’re catching up. They function, to improve the living standards of their people.
At least you know what you’re getting. I wouldn’t dare travel to America for fear of getting shot by some tweaker having a bad day, sheriff badge optional.
You know what you’re getting? What does this even mean?
There is a lot to criticise about the US, there is no point in coming with some hysterical BS, if anything your approach ignores and plays down the very real issues with American society.
I am honestly surprised that you were able to get me to defend the US.
P.S. We both know that if you went to the US, you would go to the tourist parts of NYC or LA and it would be a pretty run of the mill tourist trip.
“Know what I’m getting” means; I feel like as long as I didn’t bring up political topics and were generally a well behaved tourist I’d be safe. Have been to China twice and it was a positive, friendly experience.
I admit ignorance having never been to the US but the impression I get as a Brit is that it’s an incredibly volatile place where not knowing the right street protocol or exactly how to posture and behave in front of police means you could just be wiped out in an instant for some arbitrary shit like looking at someone. Very unsafe if you haven’t grown up there & learned the street smarts.
For example, reaching for your pocket or car glovebox when pulled over by police in UK is a very normal thing to do, to get your license to show them, but seen as an act of aggression in the US.
I’d visit given a chance but would definitely be on edge, in a way I wasn’t in China.
Your are not wrong that the US is more volatile, police often do act out even in routine situations and you will notice a lot of crazy people and degenerate behaviour, but it’s not that big of an issue if you stick to routine tourists activities and areas (or if you are with a local).
While I unfortunately haven’t been to China, I will speculate that you can get into serious trouble if you go outside of the tourist path and/or you’re not with a local.
Don’t get me wrong, I am no fan of the US.
While I’ve generally always defended the US while recognising their weaknesses, I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that the US is not a positive influence globally and their culture is perhaps more flawed than I initially believed.
That being said, it is ridiculous to position China as being “a better option”. China is a revanchist, genocidal and authoritarian country. I have no interest in being dominated by such a country.
A big thing that’s been weighing on my mind recently has been the impending threat of climate change. Who is actually going to be able to step up and potentially prevent our extinction as a species? It’s definitely not America. Europe has too many incoming threats to be able to focus on the climate crisis. In terms of world powers, it sure seems like the PRC is the only chance humanity will have, as long as we can convince them to care.
I don’t like that, but I don’t see another option. I guess if our options are extinction as a species or the Chinese model, I’ll choose the Chinese model.
Warranted. Look at their progress, their lack of aggression and social cohesion. They’re winning mate. Maybe we’d better stop jeering and start taking notes. From an Aussie UK bloke who is not on Xi’s payroll.
Must not read much local news mate.
Edit: Like at all
Is that /s?
Not if you’re paying attention.
While America fucks itself and its own citizens, China has been investing abroad for years.
No, not at all. Given the choice of a Chinese or American future, looking at the current state of affairs, I’d go China. Americans have completely lost the plot. I’m not only considering the administration, but the nutters who demand the right to bear arms resulting in their kids getting shot in schools, the plastic consumerism, lack of healthcare, homelessness. They’re a sick society full of religious fanatics and racists. China isn’t perfect but they’re level headed and pragmatic. Fusion power, space race, they’re catching up. They function, to improve the living standards of their people.
Fortunately, there are other countries as well.
Their social cohesion is due to threatening or straight up genociding any incohesive social groups.
Which genocide is that?
Oh yeah, European values above either of those two.
Uh… how about neither then? False dilemma argument.
A single party state where you get sent to the gulag for public opposition to the government sounds like a great society!
And plastic consumerism is just as applicable to China as the US. Perhaps even more.
At least you know what you’re getting. I wouldn’t dare travel to America for fear of getting shot by some tweaker having a bad day, sheriff badge optional.
You know what you’re getting? What does this even mean?
There is a lot to criticise about the US, there is no point in coming with some hysterical BS, if anything your approach ignores and plays down the very real issues with American society.
I am honestly surprised that you were able to get me to defend the US.
P.S. We both know that if you went to the US, you would go to the tourist parts of NYC or LA and it would be a pretty run of the mill tourist trip.
“Know what I’m getting” means; I feel like as long as I didn’t bring up political topics and were generally a well behaved tourist I’d be safe. Have been to China twice and it was a positive, friendly experience.
I admit ignorance having never been to the US but the impression I get as a Brit is that it’s an incredibly volatile place where not knowing the right street protocol or exactly how to posture and behave in front of police means you could just be wiped out in an instant for some arbitrary shit like looking at someone. Very unsafe if you haven’t grown up there & learned the street smarts.
For example, reaching for your pocket or car glovebox when pulled over by police in UK is a very normal thing to do, to get your license to show them, but seen as an act of aggression in the US.
I’d visit given a chance but would definitely be on edge, in a way I wasn’t in China.
Your are not wrong that the US is more volatile, police often do act out even in routine situations and you will notice a lot of crazy people and degenerate behaviour, but it’s not that big of an issue if you stick to routine tourists activities and areas (or if you are with a local).
While I unfortunately haven’t been to China, I will speculate that you can get into serious trouble if you go outside of the tourist path and/or you’re not with a local.
Don’t get me wrong, I am no fan of the US.
While I’ve generally always defended the US while recognising their weaknesses, I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that the US is not a positive influence globally and their culture is perhaps more flawed than I initially believed.
That being said, it is ridiculous to position China as being “a better option”. China is a revanchist, genocidal and authoritarian country. I have no interest in being dominated by such a country.
This is what happens when you let losers on the internet dictate your worldviews.
A big thing that’s been weighing on my mind recently has been the impending threat of climate change. Who is actually going to be able to step up and potentially prevent our extinction as a species? It’s definitely not America. Europe has too many incoming threats to be able to focus on the climate crisis. In terms of world powers, it sure seems like the PRC is the only chance humanity will have, as long as we can convince them to care.
I don’t like that, but I don’t see another option. I guess if our options are extinction as a species or the Chinese model, I’ll choose the Chinese model.