• HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee
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    16 hours ago

    It’s not moving the goalposts. Also, you haven’t alleged any “actions” the US did other than not disaproving of the Kremlin’s puppet getting booted out of office.

    Blaming NATO expansionism is effectively denying the agency of Ukraine. So yeah, saying the US is responsible for Putin’s hard on for Ukraine is an attack on Ukrainians.

    What’s pathetic is your apparent worship of Sachs.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230806172854/https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/03/20/open-letter-to-jeffrey-sachs-on-the-russia-ukraine-war/

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      15 hours ago

      Did you read your own link? It’s a blanket denial, even of US involvement which you’ve already acknowledged. And it’s written by someone with a conflict of interest, as an economist directly profiting from the regime.

      Funny that you NAFO bots love to pretend you support Ukrainian agency, while you defend those who took over their government and refuse to allow the Ukrainian people to participate in elections. Almost like you don’t actually give a fuck about Ukrainian agency, unless they’re willing to die in a proxy war for the west. Feigning such care for their agency, while not having an ounce of interest in protecting their lives.

      Btw you severely overplayed it with your ‘criticizing the US is also attacking Ukrainians’ attempt. Sloppy.

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        15 hours ago

        I don’t consider “not actively opposing” to be the same thing as “involvement.”

        Your sole cite was by an economist directly profiting from the Putin regime.

        For all your demands of sources you have not provided a single bit of evidence of anything you have alleged. Even that article sucking off Putin couldn’t offer any evidence of US involvement other than Sullivan encouraging Ukraine not to bow to Putin. Do you have any actual evidence of US involvement in Euromaidan? Of Ukrainians being blocked from participating in elections?

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          15 hours ago

          Oh now you’re changing the story again to match your link?

          Done with this NAFO shit. You’re not good enough to even keep your talking points in order. Blocked.

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            15 hours ago

            I didn’t change my story. Anyone who looks at this argument will see that and that you have taken the Blue Pill until you ODed on it.