What race is German?
You can be racist against the citizens of a country. The “race” (what a shit word for humans) isn’t of matter to be racist.
Technically since racism is prejudice + power, we’d have to know they belong to whatever ethnic group holds power to know it’s racist, it might be prejudice instead. The race actually does matter according to the sociological definition, that’s why in the US they say only white people can be racist, in China it’d be Han Chinese, etc.
Edit: Seriously, I’m not making it up, if you disagree fine, but you disagree with sociologists not me (who is not a sociologist, but merely took two classes on it in my youth.)
Here see for yourself:
https://sociologydictionary.org/racism/
(noun) Any attitude, belief, or behavior used to explain and justify prejudice and discrimination against racial or ethnic minorities, on the basis of perceived inferiority.
By definition, any attitude, belief, or behavior used to explain and justify prejudice on a racial or ethnic majority is not included.
I literally got suspended for saying the stuff you guys are, good thing we aren’t in American High School or College right now.
Racism can be against any group of people that are from a certain area or ethnic group power has 0 meaning for that.
And I know that many people in the US have some mental problems regarding political words and meanings.
Everone can be racists, Latinos and Black people are racists against each other in USA they also tend to be racist against Jewish people.
Oh no, sociologists! Good thing they’re a hivemind, and all have the same opinion on definitions.
If your argument is that you’re using the wrong word which ultimately means the same thing, then it’s not much of an argument. It’s pretty clear you’re trying to downplay racism to be more acceptable
That’s not how most people understand or use the word.
Right, but if you’ll continue reading, it’s how schools teach it in sociology class. I didn’t make the rubric, I just got suspended for questioning it.
But this isn’t a sociology class? It’s not even a sociology forum. Words can have different meanings and connotations in different contexts. The academic definition of a word does not automatically trump the colloquial definition, especially not in non-academic circumstances.
Sociology:
The study of human social behavior
Well, the sociologists have decided they’re relevant to all human interaction, so there’s that.
I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean
Absolutely fucking not. You can be completely powerless and still racist.
Unfortunately according to sociologists that is not true, those people would be “prejudice” but not “racist” with the only difference being “power.”
I was suspended for arguing against it, they seem dead set on this semantic argument.
“They” want a free pass to be racist to others and a shield from it themselves. “They” are hypocrites.
The idiots who think equality means “fuck the dealer” should stick to playing spades.
…who’s “they?” Sociologists aren’t a homogenous group, some are racial or ethnic minorities, some are racial or ethnic majorities. Both my teachers were white men.
They’re being ironic and edgy. Probably.
The question is only whether you consider ironic racism (in this case mocking 19th and 20th century “race science” with reversals of focus) to be racism regardless.
I don’t think so, but there’s also always elements of Poe’s Law to consider. Not to mention that, for example, British and American racists literally said these things unironically about Germans, reaching fever pitches in WW1.
We all know words can’t really express sarcasm or other underlying feelings or meanings very clearly. Without a /s your only able to assume if the they did or didn’t actually mean that.
So what’s the joke? Are they’re pretending to be racist without the topic (rammstein) ever mentioning race to begin with?
I don’t buy that. ‘Please excuse me. I’m just going to be sarcastically racist without anyone previously mentioning race!’ – It’s straight out of the alt-right playbook; when called out, claim it’s a sarcastic, ironic joke!
No clue, could be either. It’s text on a screen and the only emotion present, is the one you decide to apply to it.
Ask them if it was a joke or not to be sure, and if you have to ask, it’s because it might not be.
Sounds like you’re going to lengths to defend this behaviour or to differentiate it.
No apologia is allowed
Right, but there’s enough social context going on to generally assume that stans for the philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engles probably don’t actually consider Germans a form of untermensch.
Most of them aren’t actual Marxists, that’s a facade for them to spread disinformation and divisive content.
If I pay someone to do a sex crime to me, do I get in trouble or spare them the trouble?
Unfortunately illegal is illegal so, yes, they probably would be prosecuted. It’s the “crime” bit that matters. I think there was a German (lol) cannibal who consensually ate some bits of people. Prosecuted.
