• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
      12·
      9 days ago

      So the model image you posted above there says it’s more likely that Trump wins the election than it is flipping two heads in a row while flipping a coin. This is saying it’s less likely for Trump to win than Hillary to win, but something that could fairly easily happen still. These aren’t poll numbers, where 70-30 would be a massive blow out. This is a 30% chance of winning for Trump, closer to a coin flip than a sure thing.

      A lot of other models were saying something ridiculous like Clinton had 95% chance to win or something. Nate Silver’s model seems better than others based on this, if anything.

      • commandar@lemmy.world
        11·
        9 days ago

        A lot of other models were saying something ridiculous like Clinton had 95% chance to win or something. Nate Silver’s model seems better than others based on this, if anything.

        The constant attacks on how 538’s model performed in 2016 says more about statistics literacy than it does about the model.

        There is plenty to criticize Nate Silver for. Take your pick. Personally, the political nihilism that’s increasingly flirted with “anti-woke” sentiment is good enough for me. Some people might prefer taking issue with the degenerate gambling. The guy has pumped out plenty of really dumb hot takes over the years, so you have your options.

        But his models, historically, have performed relatively well if you understand that they’re models and not absolute predictors.

        • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          9 days ago

          People forget that Clinton lost because of Comey’s October revelation that the FBI was reopening the investigation into her emails.

        • takeda@lemmy.world
          1·
          9 days ago

          Looking at the historical election wins where president with lower popular vote won, trump clearly is outlier and either had outrageous luck (I doubt it) or help to push things just enough to get enough EC votes.

          Of course this help, that he got in 2016 he still is getting right now so we should still assume odds will be in his favor and make won’t get suspended and vote (the more people vote, the harder is to artificially affect the results).

      • mkwt@lemmy.world
        0·
        9 days ago

        I think Silver. Nate left FiveThirtyEight and now the site doesn’t even publish any kind of predictive model.

  • Zerlyna@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    9 days ago

    I keep trying to reframe it to people that I am happy to spend an extra $2 on a tank of gas if it means not having a convicted rapist who sows division and hate as a role model for my 12 year old niece.

    And then add in that I’m an international buyer and can confirm EVERYONE globally is paying more since COVID. And tariffs ARE passed on to the consumer.

    I’ve slowed down my own postings and now responding to my conservative friends political posts, hoping it gets to more of those people.

  • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
    0·
    9 days ago

    I have full confidence she’ll win the votes necessary. I have less confidence in GOP and MAGA operatives not pulling out all the stops to ensure Trump wins on a technicality. They WILL attempt a steal!