is this the infamous whataboutism? we could probably attribute stuff like this to “eastern” soldiers as in any war. however, the scale isn’t even comparable.
no other group of countries did as much of this in history by a long shot if not for the evil brutish westoids. no other empire commited as much violence on a global scale.
the US’s military budget in comparison to the world only begins to tell the story of misery and poverty westoids rain down upon us here in the places they claim to be protecting right now.
Lol, claiming that Russia is oriental is pretty wild. That is just about as accurate as saying America is Indian.
Russia is a western nation that brutally colonized its eastern territory. This doesnt make them Asian, just like European colonization of America doesnt make it native American.
Russia,[b] or the Russian Federation,[c] is a country in Eastern Europe and North Asia. It is the largest country in the world, spanning eleven time zones and sharing land borders with fourteen countries.[d] With a population of over 140 million, Russia is the most populous country in Europe and the ninth-most populous country in the world.
How can you be so confident, and yet so wrong about everything?
You say that like the modern polity/culture didn’t grow out of Europe and spread east or like minority ethnic groups in Asian Russia aren’t treated worse then Muscovites and ethnic Russians.
The term oriental is often used to describe objects and (in a derogative manner) people coming from the Orient/eastern Asia.
The term Oriental may sound dated or even be seen as a pejorative, particularly when used as a noun.[20] John Kuo Wei Tchen, director of the Asian/Pacific/American Studies Program and Institute at New York University, said the basic criticism of the term began in the U.S. during a cultural shift in the 1970s. He has said: “With the U.S.A. anti-war movement in the '60s and early '70s, many Asian Americans identified the term ‘Oriental’ with a Western process of racializing Asians as forever opposite ‘others’”,[21] by making a distinction between “Western” and “Eastern” ancestral origins.
Saying something is from the orient means its from Asia… Calling a person or a group of people like an army oriental is saying they are Asian.
Read your own source… Or just use common sense?
When have you ever heard of a European living in Europe being referred to as oriental?
Lol, I am Asian… I know what oriental means. If you would read your own source, you would know what oriental means as well.
From your fuckiing source…
The adjectival term Oriental has been used by the West to mean cultures, peoples, countries, Asian rugs, and goods from the Orient. “Oriental” means generally “eastern”. It is a traditional designation (especially when capitalized) for anything belonging to the Orient or “East” (for Asia), and especially of its Eastern culture. It indicated the eastern direction in historical astronomy, often abbreviated “Ori”.[8] In contemporary American English, Oriental usually refers to things from the parts of East Asia traditionally occupied by East Asians and most Central Asians and Southeast Asians racially categorized as “Mongoloid”. This excludes Jews, Indians, Arabs, and most other South or West Asian peoples. Because of historical discrimination against Chinese, Korean and Japanese, in some parts of the United States, some people consider the term derogatory. For example, Washington State prohibits the word “Oriental” in legislation and government documents and prefers the word “Asian” instead.[9]
There’s actually a long history of Russia being orientalized due to orthodox christianity. Their culture is othered and generalized through this lense. Do look into it, it is an interesting subject if you like that sort of thing.
Russian orthodox christianity is separate from oriental orthodoxy practiced in places like Syria or Armenia, who follow nicene Christian traditions. They may be othered by their western European counterparts, but eastern orthodoxy is fairly normal in places like Greece. I don’t think it would be appropriate to label them as oriental, especially in the modern understanding of the word.
In the modern context the orientalization of eastern europe is less severe for sure and Russia orthodoxy is more understood but I think its arguable that everything east of germany has experience with being orientalized
Ehhh… I’d have to disagree with that. The meaning of “the orient” has changed drastically over time, but even in the early days the furthest west it would encompass would be the caucuses, and even that’s pretty rare.
“Our Glorious Eastern Soldiers”
“Their heathen rapist genocidal evil brutish westoids”
The message is good, the title is needlessly inflammatory, as if ANY major country has clean hands.
Russia is leveling cities in self defense I swear.
is this the infamous whataboutism? we could probably attribute stuff like this to “eastern” soldiers as in any war. however, the scale isn’t even comparable.
no other group of countries did as much of this in history by a long shot if not for the evil brutish westoids. no other empire commited as much violence on a global scale.
the US’s military budget in comparison to the world only begins to tell the story of misery and poverty westoids rain down upon us here in the places they claim to be protecting right now.
The level of historical knowledge that is only possible to achieve by registering at .ml
plugging your ears to the level of destruction western powers sponsor won’t make it go away. and it makes me wonder if i’m really in a leftist comm.
because god forbid we point out the crimes of the west without going “but these orientals are still bad tho!!!”
Lol, claiming that Russia is oriental is pretty wild. That is just about as accurate as saying America is Indian.
Russia is a western nation that brutally colonized its eastern territory. This doesnt make them Asian, just like European colonization of America doesnt make it native American.
Oh boy, you’re gonna be pissed when you find out the continent Russia is located in…
It’s both, so what’s your point?
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How can you be so confident, and yet so wrong about everything?
You say that like the modern polity/culture didn’t grow out of Europe and spread east or like minority ethnic groups in Asian Russia aren’t treated worse then Muscovites and ethnic Russians.
Ahh… So when a white person lives in Asia they are oriental?
Yes. Oriental has nothing to do with race, and you would know that if you had spent 3 seconds googling before you made this snarky statement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient
Saying something is from the orient means its from Asia… Calling a person or a group of people like an army oriental is saying they are Asian.
Read your own source… Or just use common sense?
When have you ever heard of a European living in Europe being referred to as oriental?
Russia is in Asia…
And in Europe… It’s a transcontinental country. However, its asian territories are a product of European colonialism.
Americans really not beating the illiteracy allegations 🤣
Lol, the irony is neither of you even read the source…
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Lol…I would have deleted that too…
Don’t be chiding other people when you literally just used the word oriental without bothering to check what it actually meant.
Lol, I am Asian… I know what oriental means. If you would read your own source, you would know what oriental means as well.
From your fuckiing source…
There’s actually a long history of Russia being orientalized due to orthodox christianity. Their culture is othered and generalized through this lense. Do look into it, it is an interesting subject if you like that sort of thing.
Russian orthodox christianity is separate from oriental orthodoxy practiced in places like Syria or Armenia, who follow nicene Christian traditions. They may be othered by their western European counterparts, but eastern orthodoxy is fairly normal in places like Greece. I don’t think it would be appropriate to label them as oriental, especially in the modern understanding of the word.
In the modern context the orientalization of eastern europe is less severe for sure and Russia orthodoxy is more understood but I think its arguable that everything east of germany has experience with being orientalized
Ehhh… I’d have to disagree with that. The meaning of “the orient” has changed drastically over time, but even in the early days the furthest west it would encompass would be the caucuses, and even that’s pretty rare.
Yes, but whenever someone hints that an “eastern” country might not be the best, whataboutisms fly out everyone’s collective asses.
If it’s okay to criticize one way, it should be okay to criticize (when appropriately applicable) the opposing way.
You, and most of the comments here, are literally whatabouting out of your collective asses because you heard a hint of critism of western countries.
You do see the fucking irony here, right?
I do, but apparently pointing it out gets me down votes.
You didn’t point it out though
Reading comprehension is clearly low in this thread.
That is, indeed, you completely missing the irony. The exact opposite of “pointing it out”
Three diverging things can be all correct at the same time.