• Heavybell@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    All fines should be income dependent. Especially for all flavours of corporation, in which case there should be no upper limit. If the corp goes bankrupt because they broke the law hard enough it should either go out of business or become a public entity if it’s vital.

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    3 months ago

    im all for it except for literally scrapping a perfectly good vehicle

    they must know crushing and manufacturing a whole entire new car to replace it is costly as fuck to the environment and our pockets? putting it in the hands of someone who might need it is literally free.

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        3 months ago

        i dont care about messages in this context, if we crush cars without an alternative we will just force people to indebt themselves with new cars, and that just makes the problem worse. early obsolescence is not the answer.

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    3 months ago

    For reference for those using freedom units that’s roughly 60 mph in a 20 mph zone

    Bonus. In eagle burger land that will either land you:

    • $200 fine and 2 points on your license (varies on state)

    • shot in the face (dwb and reaching for a gun wallet)

    • nothing (hello fellow patrolman, have a great day killing pet dogs)

    Source: I’m a red-blooded freedom loving eagle burger citizen

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      3 months ago

      People regularly do that speed in my neighborhood that has a 25mph limit. The only time I see cops around is when they’re looking for the tweaker down the street so they can arrest him for whatever shit he stole this week, have him rat out other tweakers, and immediately release him to do the same thing again later.

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        3 months ago

        Catch and release is vital for a healthy ecosystem. It allows for sport catching without impacting breeding programs. Done correctly, a sportsman can take progressive trophy photos throughout the quarry’s life

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      3 months ago

      While true, it’s always the insurance and fees that get you. This is why I don’t understand states that post their speeding fines: they’re low enough to not stop anyone, but also don’t give the true cost

      Here in Massachusetts

      Your first speeding ticket … lose your Excellent Driver Plus Discount and see your premiums rise and stay higher for six years!

      Plus that kind of excessive speed will almost certainly also get you reckless driving

      For surcharge purposes, reckless driving is treated the same as DUI [or a major at-fault accident]. This could result in a huge insurance premium increase.

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      3 months ago

      Freedom units? You mean the ones used by your British masters?

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    3 months ago

    Denmark will also confiscate and scrap or resell your car if you go a certain percentage over the limit. 100 in a 30 zone would be enough.

    You don’t have to be a citizen or the owner of the car; if the car is found speeding, that car is getting taken.

    It was a huge thing a few years ago when it was implemented because we caught a few lambos joy riding from Germany up through Jutland

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        3 months ago

        Not a problem. In that case you’d also have theft charges and would be liable for the car’s value in civil court (or whatever the Danish equivalent is).

  • KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Going 100 in a 30 zone means you don’t care about killing a child if one happens to step out on the street.
    Boggles my mind how you’re able to ever legally drive again after that.

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        3 months ago

        True, but it’s more emotive to talk about killing kids.

        5mph is enough to flatten an unwary rat but nobody’s putting speed limits out that are that low.

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        Not familiar with how EU countries decide what speeds to put where, but if they are anything like the US, they might be referring to the fact that 30 KPH is basically what a school zone would have posted, but yeah speed limits exist for your safety and the safety of others, if it’s 30KPH, there’s probably a reason.

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          In the UK it was originally based on something like the 85th percentile: the speed most drivers would normally pick for the road given no imposed limit.

          These days it’s more based around what politicians live where, so we have dual carriageways with central reservations, which would normally be 70mph, but because some fancy nob has a house there and doesn’t like noise, it’s got to be 40mph. They don’t say that though, they say it’s down to too many accidents in the area, or speed reduction for air quality or some other nonsense (if it was for air quality then the limit’d be 60mph due to the designed-in peak efficiency at 55mph).