• chakan2@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I don’t know why anyone is surprised by this. It’s been the plan since the insurrection failed. They need to nail down R support with an iron fist single they’ll never get the popular vote again.

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    2 months ago

    Most of the analysis of the Justices’ arguments on Thursday that I’ve read suggests that complete immunity is highly unlikely. To his point about the trial getting delayed and Trump getting elected, that’s a real possibility.

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      2 months ago

      There has to be a middle ground…if charging Presidents for things they did while in office is going to be allowed, this will in no doubt open a can of worms. I can see Republicans going after Obama for things…

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        It’s not just “what he did in office”.

        HE TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE MOTHER FUCKING GOVERNMENT TO CLING TO POWER. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR GOD DAMNED HEAD.

        I’m sorry, but I am so tired of this argument. He commit fucking treason. That is literally what happened. We are all pretending like it is some nebulous thing, and it isn’t. He is the textbook definition of a fucking traitor.

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          2 months ago

          The Supreme Court will define “treason” by what the constitution says, and Trump does not fall into this category:

          “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

          So, unless you:

          a.) Recruit and assemble a militia and use it to actively engage in insurrection or

          b.) provide aid to a foreign power with whom we are actively in a declared war

          He did not recruit all those Trumpsters, they did that stupid shit on their own. He didn’t help the cause, but he did not actively recruit them to attack the government.

          My point is that the LEFT is throwing that word around way too much…without really knowing how it’s defined.

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            “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

            a.) Recruit and assemble a militia and use it to actively engage in insurrection

            Definitionally it was a militia:

            Recruiting said militia:

            Proof of motive for committing treason:

            Nobody should take you seriously because you are as pathetically weak willed and spineless as you are dishonest. Defending what Donald Trump did and the Supreme Court’s usurpation of the Constitution to allow him to avoid prosecution makes you a traitor to democracy. You disgust me.

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              2 months ago

              Okay. I guess we’ll wait and see what happens. Cheers! Oh, and VOTE RED!

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                I’ve got to hand it to you… although it takes a completely empty head to support a rapist traitor to his country, you’ve at least got some balls to admit it here.

                Props. I’m actually impressed.

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                  2 months ago

                  I don’t necessarily “support” Trump, it’s about what he will actually be found guilt of. Left wing driven sites like Lemmy and Reddit do nothing but attack the Right and anyone who supports Republicans…I just like to remind you all that the Right is NOT just about Trump. In the meantime, let’s wait and see what he’s actually found guilty of… I vote primarily Republican (although I’m registered Independent), but I’m leaning more towards RFK Jr. if anyone…

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      2 months ago

      He can still become president with a criminal conviction. He just can’t vote in the election. Isn’t our system swell?

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        2 months ago

        What system is better bro? I mean, what country the size of the United States is doing it the “right way?” India? China?

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        The rationale for this actually makes some sense. You wouldn’t want an incumbent to be able to remove an opponent by railroading them into a minor felony conviction. With the way Trump ran things, if all it took was a minor felony to make sure Biden was ineligible, he absolutely would have pressured the DOJ to find something.

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    I wonder if he is found guilty, can other Presidents be charged with past crimes? I mean, I get the anger from Lefty Lemmy, but, there has to be a middle ground. A President simply can’t be charged for something just because one side thinks he’s guilty. If that’s the case, I can see Republicans going after Obama for crimes he committed while POTUS…