• mhague@lemmy.world
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    I think it’s awkward to call for the death penalty in this case. It’s saying that it’s ok to kill people as long as there’s a mandate, or paperwork, or if enough people find it justified.

    I think about the “rule of law” and remember there’s a two tier system that holds the rich above the rest. I think about the mandate given to the law and remember how friendly they are with neo Nazis, Christian terrorists, and insurrectionists.

    Is “Killing people is ok as long as your group justifies it” the message to be sending??

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    Not a lawyer, but this feels like it could backfire on the government. If they don’t offer an alternative to murder, i would imagine there would be a higher chance of him being found not guilty should there be any level of uncertainty in the jury.

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      These clowns refuse to produce evidence as required by criminal procedure…

      Whole thing is already beyond tainted

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          Luigi’s attorneys have put together an informational website that’s a pretty decent source of info, you can find it here: https://www.luigimangioneinfo.com/

          According to the latest updates, it doesn’t look like the feds have handed over evidence during discovery like they’re supposed to, and now Bondi is coming in with max charges. Unfortunately I don’t think it’s a plea deal strategy, they just want to kill him. It’s not clear to me how much evidence has been turned over in the state trials.

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            It might be in there somewhere but I could not find it. I don’t necessarily doubt it, but would be nice with a less biased source than the lawyer of Luigi. Any news article that can sum up the legal problem of the evidence.

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              If an attorney lies about that, they can be disbarred. It’s not something that they’re likely to lie about in their position, and news articles reporting on it would probably cite them as a source.

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                I didn’t find the information on the linked website though. I’m sure it’s there, and I want to read about it. Can someone direct me to the specific page or some other source?

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                  Yeah, I don’t know what the problem is, but attorneys in general make terrible fucking websites. Under the statements section, this is a quote from the (current) third post down, a court transcript:

                  And I want to just bring to your Honor’s attention my shock, frankly, that the chief of detectives of the NYPD along with the New York City mayor had time to sit down with HBO and put hair and makeup on and provide information about the arrest, the prosecution, their theory about the case, and evidence about Mr. Mangione that we have not even received.

                  This journal that they’re calling his manifesto, we have never have been provided copies.

                  There are other mentions here and there, but this is at least a clear and specific accusation: the NYPD was talking about evidence in a press conference which had not yet been provided to the defense.

                  In terms of believability, statements given before the court like this one are pretty high for me, as long as the judge is not biased towards the attorneys (not in this case), because lying to a court can be career ending.

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          Saw a youthbe video, prosecutors didn’t turn over evidence within required time line. Presumably there is a court filing of support this claim.

          I didn’t check myself

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        I think the reference is more about how much harder it is to prove a capitol case versus proving lesser charges. He may get off completely if the jury won’t convict.

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    We all knew this was coming. All manners of abuse and murder are legal for the ruling class as long as they’re siphoning wealth from the working class. Fighting back is either prohibitively expensive or illegal. Communist anarchy for the rich cut throat capitalist tyranny for all of us. Things have gotten pretty sad.

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    Lol… How is this news…

    How about you prove your case Karen

    Because between big brain prosecutors and imbeciles law enforcement coupled with the domestic spooks… Still managed to botch it

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